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Q&A: Rolling over a 401(k) account after starting a new job — at age 73

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Dear Liz: My wife, who turned 73 this year, worked for a company until Aug. 31. She started a new job with another company the following day. She plans to roll the 401(k) from the previous company into the 401(k) of the new company. Would she need to withdraw her required minimum distribution from the old 401(k), even though the money would be in the 401(k) of her current employer?

Answer: The answer to this question gets a little tricky, says Mark Luscombe, principal analyst for Wolters Kluwer Tax & Accounting.

If she had changed jobs last year, the year before she turned 73, she could have rolled her old 401(k) account into her new employer’s plan and postponed the need to take a required minimum distribution as long as she continued to work for the new employer.

However, since she turned 73 this year and is no longer working for her old employer, she must take an RMD from the old 401(k) plan. RMDs can’t be rolled over from one 401(k) to another, so she’s required to take her RMD from the old account before moving the rest of the money to the new plan, Luscombe says.

RMDs typically must be taken by Dec. 31. A first RMD can be delayed until April 1 of the year following the year someone turns 73. People who delay, though, wind up having to take a second RMD the same year. If your wife wanted to delay her RMD, she would have to take both withdrawals before she could rollover to the new plan.

To avoid that, your wife would need to take her first RMD from the old plan before Dec. 31 and then roll over the rest. She would not be required to make additional withdrawals as long as she keeps working for the new company, Luscombe says.

If she didn’t take the RMD before rolling over her account, she would be considered to have made an “excess contribution” to the new 401(k), which could be subject to penalties, Luscombe says. She could avoid the penalties by withdrawing the RMD amount, along with any earnings or losses associated with the excess contribution, by Oct. 15 of the year after the rollover, Luscombe says. A tax pro can help with those calculations.

Q&A: Changing jobs? Think about transferring your retirement fund

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Dear Liz: I’m a government employee with a 403(b) supplemental retirement plan. I’m taking a new job out of state and wonder what to do with the money in this account. Should I leave it in the plan, which has been doing great, or transfer it to my new employer’s plan? Also, I have a little money, about $8,000, in a 457(b) deferred compensation plan that I would like to remove for simplicity. Can I transfer this into a brokerage IRA without any tax hit?

Answer: You mention that your current plan has been “doing great,” but it would be surprising if that weren’t the case. As of mid-October, the one-year return for the Standard & Poor’s 500 market benchmark was about 34%.

If your new employer’s plan is a good one, then transferring your money there could be a great option since you’d have fewer accounts to manage and monitor. How can you tell if a plan is good? You’ll see a number of low-cost investment options with expense ratios well under 1%. If you’re a teacher, you can find ratings of school district 403(b) plans at the nonprofit 403bwise (https://403bwise.org/).

You’re allowed to roll your deferred compensation plan into an IRA or your new employer’s retirement plan. You may want to keep the money where it is, however. Once you leave an employer, you’re allowed to access a 457(b) plan at any age without paying a 10% early withdrawal penalty. That could be a perk worth keeping.

Q&A: Using retirement savings to pay down debt is risky business. Do this instead

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Dear Liz: I’m way behind on retirement funds. I did get pension funds from my employer after 25 years of service but used a large portion to pay debt that was crushing me. I’m widowed, age 62 and work full time as a nurse. I rent my place. How do I catch up? I have $200,000 in an IRA.

Answer: This answer comes too late for you but may help others who are overwhelmed by debt as they approach their retirement years.

People understandably want to pay what they owe, but bankruptcy is sometimes the best of bad options. This is particularly true as you approach the end of your working years and don’t have enough time to replenish your savings. The typical bankruptcy filing can erase debt while protecting the retirement funds you’ll need for the future. Before using your lump sum pension payout to pay debts, you should have discussed your situation with a bankruptcy attorney.

At this point, your best options may be to work as long as possible, save as much as you can and figure out a smart Social Security strategy. As a widow, you may qualify for Social Security survivor benefits as well as your own retirement benefit. You can’t receive both simultaneously, but you would be allowed to switch between benefits. For example, you could start survivor benefits and then switch to your own when it maxes out at age 70, if that amount is higher. Typically you would want to wait until at least your full retirement age to start benefits, because otherwise you’ll face the earnings test that reduces your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn over a certain amount, which in 2024 is $22,320. Paid services such as Maximize My Social Security or Social Security Solutions can help you determine the best approach.

Q&A: Trust in the flexibility of living trusts

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Dear Liz: Is naming a beneficiary for a nonretirement, “payable on death” account as effective as putting the account in a living trust? It seems easier than doing all the paperwork each time I open an account, but is it a good idea?

Answer: Both living trusts and payable on death accounts avoid probate, the court process that otherwise typically follows death. But living trusts offer more flexibility and control.

Let’s say you want to benefit two relatives equally, and are leaving a savings account to one and a brokerage account to the other. The balances of the two accounts may be roughly equal today, but could be dramatically different by the time you die. A trust allows you to divvy up your assets regardless of where the money is kept.

Trusts also allow you to put restrictions on how money is spent, which can be important if your heir is a minor child, a spendthrift or someone reliant on public benefits. Payable on death accounts don’t allow restrictions.

Should you become incapacitated, the successor trustee of your living trust could access trust assets to pay for your care. Beneficiaries of payable-on-death accounts can’t get to the funds until you die, so a court procedure may be necessary to provide for you.

After you die, the person settling your estate probably will need money to cover your burial and funeral expenses, pay your bills and final taxes and perhaps get your house ready for sale. If the needed funds have already been distributed to beneficiaries of payable on death accounts, this person might be faced with asking for funds to be returned or paying out of their own pocket, says Jennifer Sawday, an estate planning attorney in Long Beach.

There’s also the piecemeal nature of payable on death accounts. Keeping track of and updating beneficiaries can be a chore. If a beneficiary dies before you, that can create administrative problems as well.

Payable on death accounts can be a low-cost solution for people who don’t have much money and who can’t afford to pay for a trust. If you already have a trust, though, it makes sense to use it.

You typically don’t have to update your living trust every time you open a new account, by the way. Discuss the issue with your estate planning attorney, but typically all that’s needed is to add the account to the schedule of assets that’s usually at the end of your trust document.

Q&A: A retirement catch-22 and health savings accounts

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Dear Liz: My wife and I are withdrawing an unusually large amount from our IRAs in order to make a 20% down payment on the construction of a new retirement home. This withdrawal will, unfortunately, bring our modified adjusted gross income above the limits that will cause increases in our Medicare premiums in 2026. Is there any way to avoid this increase?

Answer: You have the right to appeal an increase in your premiums, but successful appeals usually require someone to have experienced a drop in income due to retirement, a spouse’s death or divorce, for example. A one-time increase in your income — because of a large IRA withdrawal or capital gains from the sale of a home, for example — usually won’t qualify for relief.

As you know, Medicare’s income-related monthly adjusted amount (IRMAA) adds surcharges to Part B and Part D premiums when incomes exceed certain amounts. In 2024, IRMAA starts when modified adjusted gross income exceeds $103,000 for individuals or $206,000 for married couples filing jointly. There’s a two-year delay between when you report your income and when IRMAA increases your premiums.

The good news is that the increase isn’t permanent. If your income goes back to normal next year, so will your 2027 premiums.