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Q&A: Don’t confuse Social Security’s spousal and survivor benefits

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Dear Liz: I waited until 70 to start taking Social Security. My wife, who is the lower earner, took a spousal benefit at her full retirement age. I know she is entitled to my benefit when I pass. However, I understand she does not get my current benefit but the amount I would have received if I had started Social Security at my full retirement age. How do I find that amount?

Answer: You don’t need to. Your wife’s current spousal benefit was based on the amount you would have received at full retirement age. Her survivor benefit — the one she would get if you die first — will be 100% of your current benefit. Because you waited and maximized your own benefit, you also maximized the survivor benefit she may have to live on in the years to come.

Many people confuse the rules for spousal and survivor benefits. Even though they’re based on the same thing — the earnings record of the higher or “primary” earner, which is you — they have different rules for how they’re calculated.

Q&A: A first paycheck means getting to know Uncle Sam

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Dear Liz: My recently graduated child got a job and he will be given a 1099 tax form for his earnings. I know he will have to file his taxes differently and will need to pay both state and federal income taxes, but will he also make payments toward Social Security? Will these months (and maybe years) go toward his lifetime “credits” of paying into Social Security?

Answer: The company is paying your son as an independent contractor rather than as an employee. That means he will need to file his taxes as someone who is self-employed. So yes, he’ll be paying into Social Security — and he’ll be doing so at twice the rate of employees who receive W2s.

Normally, Social Security and Medicare taxes are split between employees and employers. Both pay 7.65% of the employee’s wages, for a total of 15.3%. Self-employed workers must pay both halves.

Your son won’t have taxes withheld from his earnings, so he’ll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties. A tax pro can help him set up these payments and suggest legitimate expenses he can use to reduce his tax bill.

Q&A: Social Security Disability Benefits for Disabled Adult Children

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Dear Liz: This is regarding the writer whose daughter is a 21-year-old single mom with bipolar disorder and major depressive disorder. Adults who are disabled before age 22 can be eligible for Social Security Disability Insurance under the Disabled Adult Child program. After two years of SSDI, she would be eligible for Medicare. An attorney who handles Social Security disability cases can help her apply for this valuable benefit.

Answer: Thank you. Normally, Social Security requires someone to have worked to earn benefits, but there are exceptions, and the Disabled Adult Child program is one of them. Benefits are based on a parent’s earnings record, so the adult child does not need to have a work history.

Q&A: Taking half your spouse’s Social Security payment can be better than taking your own.

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Dear Liz: My bookkeeper cousin told me I could get half my husband’s Social Security instead of my own. I took Social Security at 66, when my benefit was $1,300. My husband waited until 70, when his was $3,295. Does that mean I could be getting a monthly check for $1,600?

Answer: Probably not. Spousal benefits can be up to 50% of the benefit your husband had earned as of his full retirement age, not the amount he claimed at age 70. You can check with Social Security, but your own benefit is likely more than your spousal benefit would have been.

Q&A: Is it only the bread winners who get Social Security?

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Dear Liz: How is it that elderly people who have never contributed to Social Security can collect a check? My wife’s grandmother was getting more than $1,000 a month.

Answer: Spousal and survivor benefits are nearly as old as the Social Security program itself.

Social Security was signed into law in 1935. Initially, benefits were only for retired workers. In 1939, benefits were added for wives, widows and dependent children. Later changes added spousal and survivor benefits for men as well as disability benefits.

Social Security isn’t a retirement fund where workers deposit funds into individual accounts. Instead, it’s a social insurance program designed to provide income to retirees, workers who become disabled and the families of workers who die. Benefits are paid using taxes collected from current workers. Like other insurance, the system is designed to protect people against significant economic risks, such as outliving your savings, losing your ability to earn income or losing a breadwinner.

In other words, your wife’s grandmother may not have paid into the system, but her spouse or ex-spouse did, and that provided her with a small source of income.

Which Social Security benefit? It depends.

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Dear Liz: I am 61 and retired. My husband recently died at age 61 and he was still working at the time of his death. He’s always made more money than I did. I’ve been told that I can start getting Social Security after I turn 62 and when I turn 67 I can apply for survivor benefits. Is this correct?

Answer: You can start survivor benefits as early as age 60 and retirement benefits as early as age 62. Most people should delay their applications for Social Security benefits, because an early start typically means a smaller lifetime payout. You’re one of the exceptions since you’re allowed to switch between survivor benefits and your own.

Because the survivor benefit is much larger than your own, you’ll want to maximize your payout by not taking it early. That means waiting to start until your full retirement age. You can start your own benefit at 62 and switch to survivor benefits at 67.

An early start means being subject to the earnings test until full retirement age. If you’re not working, though, that’s a moot point.

Social Security is complicated and the right claiming strategy depends on the details of an individual’s situation. Consider using one of the paid Social Security claiming strategy sites, such as Maximize My Social Security or Social Security Solutions, to find the best approach.