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Q&A: A gray area in required distributions

February 28, 2022 By Liz Weston

Dear Liz: I’ve reached that “certain age” when I should be taking required minimum distributions from my retirement accounts. I retired from full-time work at age 65 but continued doing small jobs at an hourly rate for that same employer. I set my own hours and earn just a couple thousand bucks a year. The company that holds my retirement funds says I don’t have to take the required minimum distribution because I never retired. I don’t want to be penalized for failing to take the RMD, and I can’t believe I get to delay taking the funds. Have I found a little-known loophole?

Answer: You’ve found a definite gray area.

People who are still working for the employer who provides their 401(k) may be exempted from the required minimum withdrawals that are otherwise supposed to start at age 72. The exemption does not apply to IRAs or retirement plans from previous employers. The exemption also doesn’t apply if you own more than 5% of the company, and not all 401(k) plans offer a “still working” exemption.

The IRS hasn’t offered a lot of guidance about the still-working exemption. For example, there doesn’t seem to be a clear minimum number of hours that an individual must work, said Mark Luscombe, principal analyst for Wolters Kluwer Tax & Accounting.

Luscombe says the exemption may depend in part on the minimum number of hours required to participate in the plan. Even then, though, it’s not clear that an employee could reduce the number of hours working from a full-time level to a part-time level and still qualify for the still-working exception, he said.

“This could be a discrimination issue if higher-paid employees were allowed to reduce their hours and lower-paid employees were not,” Luscombe notes.

The company might need a written rule that all employees are allowed to reduce their hours at a certain age, Luscombe said.

If a particular plan permits part-time employees working at least 500 hours per year to qualify for its 401(k) plan, for example, then perhaps working at least 500 hours per year meets the still-working standard for that plan.

You’ll want to get some clarity about this, because the penalty for not taking required minimum distributions on time is high — it’s 50% of the amount you should have taken but didn’t. If the plan doesn’t have clear rules, ask your company to create some to guide you and others in your situation.

Filed Under: Q&A, Retirement

Friday’s need-to-know money news

February 25, 2022 By Liz Weston

Today’s top story: 3 business loan application mistakes and how to avoid them. Also in the news: New tax reporting requirements and the five stages of a market bubble.

3 Business Loan Application Mistakes and How to Avoid Them
When applying for a business loan, choose the right lender, organize your paperwork and seek advice from financial professionals.

Sold $600 on Peer-to-Peer Apps? Expect a New Tax Form
Apps like PayPal and Venmo are subject to new tax reporting requirements as of Jan. 1. Here’s what’s changing for small businesses.

The Five Stages of a Market Bubble (and Where Crypto Stands)
Just because the blockchain may be here to stay doesn’t mean the current crypto market isn’t circling the drain.

Filed Under: Liz's Blog Tagged With: business loan, crypto, new tax form, PayPal, Venmo

Thursday’s need-to-know money news

February 24, 2022 By Liz Weston

Today’s top story: Grimace-free ways to learn personal finance. Also in the news: How to stop anxiety from sabotaging your investments, and what to look for in a house if you want to start a family.

Grimace-Free Ways to Learn Personal Finance
Outrageous statements and flashy graphics grab attention, but there’s also plenty of sound, factually correct money content out there – and some of it is even entertaining.

How to Stop Anxiety From Sabotaging Your Investments
Fear is the mind-killer—don’t let it be the IRA killer, too.

What to Look for in a House If You Want to Start a Family
Beyond good schools and a quiet street, it helps if you can find these features.

Filed Under: Liz's Blog Tagged With: housing, investment, IRA, personal finance

Wednesday’s need-to-know money news

February 23, 2022 By Liz Weston

Today’s top story: 7 secrets to surviving group travel With different budgets. Also in the news: Why Puerto Rico is the ultimate travel destination this year, and 5 ways to avoid travel headaches this year.

7 Secrets to Surviving Group Travel With Different Budgets
Communication and planning are key when setting financial expectations for travel with friends.

One Big Reason Why Puerto Rico Might Be the Ultimate Travel Destination This Year
High vaccination rates and fewer travel restrictions make Puerto Rico a draw.

5 Ways to Avoid Travel Headaches This Year
COVID-19 is still negatively impacting travel, so plan accordingly.

Filed Under: Liz's Blog Tagged With: budget travel, travel

Tuesday’s need-to-know money news

February 22, 2022 By Liz Weston

Today’s top story:  How to protect your spending power from inflation. Also in the news: How money red flags can make or break a couple, how Generation Z can jump-start savings, and how to tell if a subscription flight service is worth your money.

How to Protect Your Spending Power From Inflation
So the 7.5% spike seen over the past year in the costs of fuel, used vehicles, groceries and just about everything else is the kind of sudden and systemic rise that can give a jolt to most peoples’ everyday spending.

Money Red Flags Can Make or Break a Couple
If you both can discuss your differences with honesty and empathy, it’s an opportunity to emerge stronger. But some money red flags can’t be ignored.

How Generation Z Can Jump-start Savings (Advice Anyone Can Use)
Start saving early: Begin with a small amount, automate your deposits, earn interest and eventually level up.

How to Tell If a Subscription Flight Service Is Worth Your Money
Alaska Airlines is joining the subscription game with Flight Pass. How good of a deal is it?

Filed Under: Liz's Blog Tagged With: flight service subscription, inflation, jump-start savings, money red flags

Painless – even fun – ways to learn about money

February 22, 2022 By Liz Weston

The online landscape is littered with horrible personal finance advice: teenagers promoting day trading strategies, “influencers” flogging questionable investment schemes and people with dubious credentials insisting you shouldn’t invest in a 401(k).

Outrageous statements and flashy graphics grab attention, but there’s also plenty of sound, factually correct money content out there — and some of it is even entertaining.

In my latest for the Associated Press, learn more about managing your finances while having at least a little fun.

Filed Under: Liz's Blog Tagged With: managing finances, personal finance advice

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