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Q&A: Social Security is insurance

February 7, 2022 By Liz Weston

Dear Liz: My wife died in March 2020. I receive nothing from her Social Security (other than $255) and will receive only a portion of mine due to the windfall elimination provision. Is there anything I can do since I am receiving none of what she paid into Social Security and only a fraction of mine?

Answer:
In a word, no. If you’re receiving a pension from a job that didn’t pay into Social Security, the government pension offset reduces any Social Security survivor or spousal benefit by two-thirds of the amount of your pension. If two-thirds of the amount of your pension is greater than your survivor benefit, you don’t get a survivor benefit.

Is that an outrage? Perhaps, if you think that Social Security should act like a retirement account. In reality, it’s insurance. (The formal name for Social Security is Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance.)

With a retirement account, what you take out usually bears some relationship to what you put in. With insurance, that’s not necessarily the case. You may take out more than you put in, less or nothing at all.

Many people pay Social Security taxes for decades but ultimately get more from a spousal or survivor benefit than from their own work record. Then there are those, like you, who have their retirement benefit reduced, or a survivor benefit eliminated, because they have a generous pension from a government job that didn’t pay into the Social Security system. In these cases, it can feel like the Social Security taxes paid — the “premiums,” if you will — have been wasted even if financially you’ve come out ahead.

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  1. Eddie says

    February 18, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    Dear Liz: I draw a government pension and I pay for survivor’s benefit for my spouse. My question is, when I pass, does she get to keep what she is drawing from Social Security and the survivor benefit from my pension? Or does she get a reduced SS check because of the survivor’s benefit?

    • Liz Weston says

      March 2, 2022 at 3:54 pm

      She’s not the one with the government pension, so her Social Security benefits aren’t affected by WEP or GPO.

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