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		<title>Quit trying to change a spendthrift</title>
		<link>http://asklizweston.com/2011/10/17/quit-trying-to-change-a-spendthrift/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lizweston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Liz: I&#8217;m desperate and need your input. My brother is in his 50s and makes only $10 an hour. His paycheck is gone after two days from eating out and bar hopping. He&#8217;s in collections with doctors, colleges, credit cards and more, and has been for 20 years. He&#8217;s draining my mother both financially [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dear Liz:</strong> I&#8217;m desperate and need your input. My brother is in  his 50s and makes only $10 an hour. His paycheck is gone after two days  from eating out and bar hopping. He&#8217;s in collections with doctors,  colleges, credit cards and more, and has been for 20 years. He&#8217;s  draining my mother both financially and emotionally. The rest of my  family says to let him go and make him realize the consequences. I keep  helping him out with gas money and trying to help him budget, but he  really doesn&#8217;t care. His thought is, &#8220;Take care of your needs now and  worry about paying for it later.&#8221; What are my options?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> Your options are pretty simple. You can continue to bail him out. Or you can stop.</p>
<p>A  longtime spendthrift is unlikely to change his behavior. That&#8217;s  particularly true if he still has people around him willing to give him  money, but he may not change even if your entire family cuts him off.</p>
<p>Understanding that you don&#8217;t have the power to change your  brother is an important, but difficult, first step. You may want to seek  help from a counselor or a 12-step group that helps people deal with  problem relationships. Since bar hopping is such a big part of his life,  you (and your mother) may benefit from attending Al-Anon, the 12-step  group for people who have alcoholics in their lives. You can find more  information at <a href="http://www.al-anon.alateen.org/">http://www.al-anon.alateen.org</a>. Another similar group is Codependents Anonymous (information at <a href="http://www.coda.org/">http://www.coda.org</a>), which aims to help people develop healthier relationships.</p>
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		<title>Parents expect yet another bailout from son</title>
		<link>http://asklizweston.com/2011/07/05/parents-expect-yet-another-bailout-from-son/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lizweston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Liz: My parents never developed good behaviors when it came to money. They didn&#8217;t save, budget or make good spending decisions. Recently they&#8217;ve fallen on hard times. My mother is on disability, and my father is unable to get a salaried job. He&#8217;s an independent contractor who doesn&#8217;t make enough to regularly cover their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dear Liz:</strong> My parents never developed good behaviors when it came  to money. They didn&#8217;t save, budget or make good spending decisions.  Recently they&#8217;ve fallen on hard times. My mother is on disability, and  my father is unable to get a salaried job. He&#8217;s an independent  contractor who doesn&#8217;t make enough to regularly cover their mortgage  payments, let alone food or medical expenses.</p>
<p>I love my parents and want to help, but I don&#8217;t want to financially ruin  myself or become their money tree. I&#8217;ve bailed them out in the past  (including several months&#8217; worth of mortgage payments to avoid  foreclosure). I am 30 and have a good job, but they seem to think I have  an obligation to help them. I resist doing so when I&#8217;m told they expect  me to pay, but I&#8217;m troubled because the situation is affecting their  health. How can I establish and maintain proper boundaries?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> No one, including your parents, can dictate what you owe your family. You have to work that out for yourself.</p>
<p>Helping your parents with a life-threatening emergency is one thing.  Repeatedly bailing them out of stressful financial situations they&#8217;ve  created for themselves is quite another, particularly if you&#8217;re stinting  your retirement savings or going into debt to do so.</p>
<p>So even if you can afford to help, the question remains whether you  should. Often people who mismanage money  continue to do so if enabled  with cash infusions. They don&#8217;t have to change, so they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Your parents, like everyone else, need to learn to live on their current  income — not what they used to make or what they hope to make soon. If  they can&#8217;t cover the mortgage payments, they need to find a cheaper  place to live — preferably one that costs less than 30% of what they  currently earn. (If your father&#8217;s income is extremely irregular, they  may need to base their affordable rent on your mother&#8217;s income plus  whatever he&#8217;s reasonably sure he can make each month.)</p>
<p>So instead of giving cash, you might give them a session with a fee-only  financial planner (you can get referrals to planners that charge by the  hour from Garrett Planning Network, at <a href="http://www.garrettplanningnetwork.com/">http://www.garrettplanningnetwork.com</a>)  or ask them to meet with a budgeting counselor at a nonprofit credit  counseling agency (you can get referrals at the National Foundation for  Credit Counseling, at <a href="http://www.nfcc.org/">http://www.nfcc.org</a>). You can make these education efforts a requirement of any further financial help from you.</p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t manage a decent lifestyle on their incomes despite their  best efforts, you may want to step in to help. But just as they weren&#8217;t  obligated to hand you cash with no strings attached, neither are you  required to dole out money freely to them.</p>
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		<title>Want to create an heirloom? Use it</title>
		<link>http://asklizweston.com/2009/11/03/want-to-create-an-heirloom-use-it/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lizweston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[photo credit: Dax Melmer You&#8217;ve probably heard that you shouldn&#8217;t store things you don&#8217;t use. What&#8217;s the good china for, after all, if it never graces the family table? But Harry Rinker, HGTV&#8217;s &#8220;The Collector Inspector&#8221; and author of &#8220;Sell, Keep or Toss?,&#8221; just gave me another perspective on why we want to use our [...]]]></description>
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<p>You&#8217;ve probably heard that you shouldn&#8217;t store things you don&#8217;t use. What&#8217;s the good china for, after all, if it never graces the family table?</p>
<p>But Harry Rinker, HGTV&#8217;s &#8220;The Collector Inspector&#8221; and author of &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0375722408/?tag=lizweston-20" target="_blank">Sell, Keep or Toss?</a>,&#8221; just gave me another perspective on why we want to use our precious things. Putting the china on the table or using your Grandmother&#8217;s candlesticks or reading to your kids from your own childhood books helps your children create memories around these items. When it comes time to pass them down, your children are much more likely to want the stuff that has strong memories associated with it&#8211;rather than stuff that&#8217;s been sitting in boxes their whole lives.</p>
<p>My husband&#8217;s aunt just gave us the Winnie the Pooh books she loved as a child. Although they&#8217;re in delicate condition, we&#8217;re going to start reading them to our daughter, so she&#8217;ll have another way to remember her great aunt.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear what you&#8217;re doing to create family memories.</p>
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		<title>Supporting the family spendthrift</title>
		<link>http://asklizweston.com/2009/02/10/supporting-the-family-spendthrift/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lizweston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Liz: My spouse&#8217;s siblings have decided my husband and I should lend his brother $11,000 to pay off three credit card bills since they &#8220;can&#8217;t.&#8221; He says the interest rates are killing him and that he can afford to pay us $200 a month. In the past, whenever this brother had money issues, his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dear Liz: </strong>My spouse&#8217;s siblings have decided my husband and I should lend his brother $11,000 to pay off three credit card bills since they &#8220;can&#8217;t.&#8221; He says the interest rates are killing him and that he can afford to pay us $200 a month. In the past, whenever this brother had money issues, his parents took care of them, bailing him out more than once. My spouse feels obligated to his family, but I see it more as being used and expect never to see the $11,000 again. If we have to go through with this, I&#8217;d prefer to have a formal legal document with some protection and collateral. I&#8217;d also like to have it written that the credit card accounts are closed and no more will be opened while the loan is being repaid. I&#8217;ve wondered if there isn&#8217;t a better way to do this safely.</p>
<p><strong>Answer: </strong>How nice of your husband&#8217;s family to decide how you should spend your money. But just because you appear to be better off than they are does not mean you are obligated to support the family spendthrift.</p>
<p>The situation might be different if your brother-in-law&#8217;s life or health were at stake, or if he suffered an unexpected financial blow. In that case, you might want to honor your spouse&#8217;s sense of obligation (while perhaps persuading the other siblings to chip in).</p>
<p>In reality, however, what we have is a grown man who can&#8217;t figure out how to pay an $11,000 bill without pleading with his siblings for a bailout.</p>
<p>Your spouse should recommend he talk to a legitimate credit counselor about a debt management program that could lower his interest rates. He can get a referral from the National Foundation for Credit Counseling at <a href="http://www.nfcc.org/">www.nfcc.org</a>.</p>
<p>If you do lend the money, you of course should formalize it with a written agreement and collateral. But understand that regardless of the precautions you take, the chances of his actually repaying the loan are slim.</p>
<p>You also shouldn&#8217;t imagine that the shame of the unpaid debt will deter him from asking for more money the next time he gets into trouble. This man never learned self-reliance, and you won&#8217;t teach it to him by giving him more money.</p>
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